Ciliatus x Chahoua hybrid...

[firecrested]

To be a 25% chahoua, I believe he would have had to breed a 50/50 crested chahoua male to a crested female, so a female hybrid wouldnt be necessary.

[NYCrestie]

exactly, but in the ad the person claims it was from 2 hybrids

"It is a chahoua cross crested gecko these babies are 25% chahoua and 75% crested produced from a 50% and 50%."

since they will be at the white plain show on sunday, i will be grilling the hell out of them, lol

[smith710]

Nice, tell us how it goes!

[firecrested]

exactly, but in the ad the person claims it was from 2 hybrids

"It is a chahoua cross crested gecko these babies are 25% chahoua and 75% crested produced from a 50% and 50%."

since they will be at the white plain show on sunday, i will be grilling the hell out of them, lol

Yea I saw that.  If it was bred 50% to 50% wouldnt that make the babies 50% too

[smith710]

Ohhh yeah! I didn't even think of that!

[KatiesCresteds]

Personally, I think they are facinating, and do plan on a breeding project with a Chahoua and a Ciliatus. I will probably keep all the offspring, or sell them to people I trust COMPLETLY. I plan on purchasing 2 chahoua (1 male, 1 female) and 2 cresties (1 male and 1 female). No one has tried to cross a male crestie to a female chewy, so I plan on doing the to see if it will produce a female hybrid. And I'll be crossing the male chewy to the female, to get the male. All 4 of these animals will NEVER be bred back to cresties or chewies, neither will their offspring. Now, if I do create 1 male and 1 female hybrid, I do plan on trying to place them together to breed, but again, their young will either be kept, or sold to trusted people that I know personally. This way there will be no breeding back to pure chewies or cresties. Like what others have said, if represented trustfully and correctly, these beautiful hybrids have potential.

-Katie-

[firecrested]

Whenever I see a breeder with these I pass on all their rhacs, and never give it a second thought at buying any from them.  The first guy that posted them had a crested i wanted but what if it was one of the 75% cresteds.

[KatiesCresteds]

I won't be breeding these to sell, and most likely won't post them on my site. That's even if I do it, which if I do, will be in the far future. I'm only 16, and want to make sure I can correctly record all the bloodlines of all my cresties before I even think of doing this. I want to make sure I'm ready. This project will be only for joy, not to sell hybrids for big bucks. Like I said, most will be kept at just as pets, nothing more. I guarantee that there will be NO breeding back to cresties or chewies, but if you do not believe me, that is your opinion and I respect that and cannot judge you for that.

-Katie-

[firecrested]

The last post wasnt really written at you.  Sorry if you took it as that.  It was mostly for the breeders selling like the one on KS now as a 25%.  I dont know if you have seen them but they look 100% crested so without excellent records, one could easily be sold as a full blooded crested. and that's what i'm staying away from. 

[KatiesCresteds]

Oh ok, lol sorry. I have seen the ad, and it does look like a crestie more than chewie. The KS ad is probably fake, just some jerk trying to get some extra cash. That's why I'll be providing records for all my animals, hybrids or not. It's rediculous what some people will do for money these days. It's just pathetic...

[sciteacher]

I guarantee that there will be NO breeding back to cresties or chewies, but if you do not believe me, that is your opinion and I respect that and cannot judge you for that.

-Katie-

No offense Katie, but that's a guarantee that is almost impossible to enforce. You talked about crossing two pairs of animals in your hybrid breeding project. Let's say that conservatively each female in the project produces 6 clutches of eggs (6 X 2 = 12 clutches or 24 eggs). Are you prepared to provide proper long term housing for 24 "pets" that you'll keep for their lifetime of 15+ years? What if the following year you decide to put the cresteds together and the chahouas together to produce "purebred" animals once your hybrid project was over? Can you guarantee that the offspring that come from this cross are indeed purebred, or is there the slightest chance that there was retained sperm that would result in a clutch or two of hybrids?

It's nice that you're enthusiastic and are interested in the genetics, but you are 16 years old. What happens if you go off to college, or your interests change? Who's going to end up with these hybrids and how are you going to control what they do with them? Just a few things to think about.

Gary

[KatiesCresteds]

I guarantee that there will be NO breeding back to cresties or chewies, but if you do not believe me, that is your opinion and I respect that and cannot judge you for that.

-Katie-

No offense Katie, but that's a guarantee that is almost impossible to enforce. You talked about crossing two pairs of animals in your hybrid breeding project. Let's say that conservatively each female in the project produces 6 clutches of eggs (6 X 2 = 12 clutches or 24 eggs). Are you prepared to provide proper long term housing for 24 "pets" that you'll keep for their lifetime of 15+ years? What if the following year you decide to put the cresteds together and the chahouas together to produce "purebred" animals once your hybrid project was over? Can you guarantee that the offspring that come from this cross are indeed purebred, or is there the slightest chance that there was retained sperm that would result in a clutch or two of hybrids?

It's nice that you're enthusiastic and are interested in the genetics, but you are 16 years old. What happens if you go off to college, or your interests change? Who's going to end up with these hybrids and how are you going to control what they do with them? Just a few things to think about.

Gary

None taken, but as I said, I will either keep them, or give them to trusted people. With that said, WHEN I do this, I will be older and more experienced in the matter. I will make sure I DO have room to house and money to care for the ones I keep. Also, these animals will NEVER be bred back, as stated, just because of the chance of retaining of sperm.

I am going to college, and I'm going for herpetology. Reptiles are what I will mainly be studying, and that's one reason this interests me so much. I will most likely not begin the hybrid breeding until after I graduate college, so I know I have the room.

-Katie-

[smith710]

Are chewies the same as cresties when it comes to leaving more than one male in the enclosure?  Do they tend to fight more, like the cresties?

[honuman]

exactly, but in the ad the person claims it was from 2 hybrids

"It is a chahoua cross crested gecko these babies are 25% chahoua and 75% crested produced from a 50% and 50%."

since they will be at the white plain show on sunday, i will be grilling the hell out of them, lol

Stop by my table and let me know what you've found out OOOR come and get me and we can tag team grill this person.  Did not see the ad.  So he did not cross back to a pure crestie??  He claims it was 50/50 mated to another 50/50.  INNNNNteresting. LOL!!

Also -- anyone else going to be at the whiteplains show.  Come on by our table and say hi.  It's TURTLE RESCUE OF LONG ISLAND -- we are over by the food concession where they serve those AWFUL and expensive burgers and hot dogs!

Steve

[NYCrestie]

exactly, but in the ad the person claims it was from 2 hybrids

"It is a chahoua cross crested gecko these babies are 25% chahoua and 75% crested produced from a 50% and 50%."

since they will be at the white plain show on sunday, i will be grilling the hell out of them, lol

Stop by my table and let me know what you've found out OOOR come and get me and we can tag team grill this person.  Did not see the ad.  So he did not cross back to a pure crestie??  He claims it was 50/50 mated to another 50/50.  INNNNNteresting. LOL!!

Also -- anyone else going to be at the whiteplains show.  Come on by our table and say hi.  It's TURTLE RESCUE OF LONG ISLAND -- we are over by the food concession where they serve those AWFUL and expensive burgers and hot dogs!

Steve

hahah, sounds like a plan
and agreed, the nathans burgers and dogs suck there, but there fries are the best. ill probably cheat a little and get me some fries while im there, lol

ok, i have been to your table before, your right next to mike (dragontown)
i think i was talking to the lady the last show. there was a little bag of what looked to be seeds? so i asked her about it, needless to say i forgot what they were, lol

if thats your table i know exactly where you are and since i hang out and bs with mike ill definately stop by